Showing posts with label Gonzalo Tiesi. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gonzalo Tiesi. Show all posts

Thursday, May 17, 2012

Horacio Agulla to play 13 for Los Pumas?

With the June internationals fast approaching the Pumas outside centre position is one that is far from being resolved. Just who will play in the 13 shirt remains uncertain due to the long season that started with Rugby World Cup 2011, Argentina´s rumour of experimenting in June and the performances of players in contention for the spot. There would appear to be three players in contention - Marcelo Bosch, Gonzalo Tiesi and Horacio Agulla. All three went to the World Cup but only one is a specialist in the position. Other contenders for the position do exist, such as Agustín Gozio and Manuel Montero, but none have the same credentials and would be a long shot to start in The Rugby Championship. 

Tiesi scores vs Scotland in 2010
It would appear that the chances of Gonzalo Tiesi returning to be Argentina´s first choice outside centre are slim due to the performances of Bosch and Agulla. Having recovered from knee surgery suffered in the first World Cup match, Tiesi returned to play an Amlin Challenge Cup match for Stade Français only to miss the rest of the season, requiring shoulder reconstruction surgery. He may not have been playing rugby this seson but he remains under the close watch of Pumas coach, Santiago Phelan. Tiesi is currently in Pensacola, Florida, USA in preperation for the international season. Phelan. The UAR is investing in his recuperation to see that he can be fit and ready.

Tiesi was a good performer for Argentina in 2010 and 2011 but has now been released from Stade Français due to his injury complications and his future is unknown. His two years in Paris have not been his best as injury has severely limited his game time. While at the Harlequins from 2008-2010 he was in good form which attracted offers from teams such as Stade Français. He joined London Irish three years before joining the Harlequins and became Argentina´s leading outside centre while in England. Now, however, it would appear that it is better for him to return to the Pumas 13 shirt only when he is 100% fit. He has also not got sufficient game time under his belt to start tests in June.


Bosch vs New Zealand RWC2011
Marcelo Bosch has again been playing Top 14 and Heineken Cup rugby this season in the 13 shirt for Biarritz but the position continues to not be considered his actual position. Bosch replaced Tiesi in the first World Cup match and went on to have a solid World Cup for Los Pumas. This season he has played 14 Top 14 matches, starting in eleven of these matches and doing so in three different positions. Six of these matches had Bosch starting at outside centre, two at fullback and three times he started in his natural position of flyhalf. He was also moved about in Heineken Cup matches this season due to the clubs problems which had the team at rock bottom and facing the reality of being relgated to the Pro d2.

Bosch´s form for Biarritz  has been steady despite the clubs problems and his moving about in the team. While not ideal, Bosch has been playing good rugby and is certain to be named in Santiago Phelan´s squad for the June internationals vs Italy and France. He should be the frontrunner for the Pumas 13 shirt this season but he needs a deputy and the time to find this out is not in The Rugby Championship but sooner. Santiago Phelan needs to use the June tests to be clear on who, aside from Bosch, can play 13 if Tiesi´s recovering continues to be slow. Moreover, In June Bosch could very well well also be played in flyhalf, inside centre or fullback. 



Agulla vs England, RWC2011
Horacio Agulla is a winger who has been used at fullback for Argentina in the past and has, despite not wearing the 13 shirt, been used in the position at times during tests. The former Hindu winger has been in the form of his life this season playing for the Leicester Tigers. Agulla has been the teams first choice right winger, scoring seven tries and assisting in creating others. He was awarded try of the season by the club and also player of the season. He was also named in the Aviva Premiership Dream XV of the season. His form is, without question, top shelf and he will start for his country. But given the uncertain nature of Gonazlo Tiesi perhaps Phelan ought to try Agulla in the 13 shirt. Curiously, with Manu Tuilagi unavaliable after the World Cup, Agulla played vs the Sale Sharks and London Irish at outside centre for Leicester. This means he has played more rugby this season in the position than Tiesi. More importantly, however, it means he has been judged by the best English club as being an adequate option for the position and he indeed should be tested in the upcoming tests vs Italy and France.

Agulla was moved to 15 in 2009 to replace Bernardo Stortoni who had taken over from Ignacio Corleto after France 2007. Agulla proved to be a good performer in the position and traded between fullback and centre with new comer Martín Rodríguez Gurruchaga in the November tour of Europe. He also played at outside centre following the loss of both Tiesi and Felipe Contepomi vs England at Rugby World Cup 2011. Agulla has the skills to be a test 13 and, right now, appears to be the perfect opportunity to test him out in this postion given Argentina´s current strong supply of wingers. Argentina has five players who have been performing very well this season in Europe.  Of the five Lucas González Amorosino looks certain to move to be Argentina´s starting fullback while Juan Imhoff, Gonzalo Camacho and Martín Bustos Moyano looking like filling the two wing spots. The fifth player, Agulla, could keep his player on the wing or he could be moved infield one place to outside centre which would fill the void of the position as well as ensure that as many of Argentina´s form players as possible are all on the park. It could well be where his future lies after having played two World Cup´s as Los Pumas´ left winger and now looming as being a senior player who could have a greater impact on play from the midfield. With Rugby World Cup 2015 in mind a move to the 13 shirt could well be very shrewed. 

Sunday, May 6, 2012

Update on players from the Americas for 2012/2013

Here is a roundup on the futures of the Argentines and other players from the Americas next season.
Gonzalo Tiesi has had a season
plagued with serious injuries and
has been released by Stade Français

Gonzalo Tiesi has had an enormously injury disrupted season, after getting injured during Argentina's opening match at the World Cup in New Zealand he was ruled out for the remainder of the tournament, he returned in November in the Amlin Challenge Cup to play his only match of the season for Stade Français, only to get back injured again.

He has been released by Stade for next season, and the 27 year old centre looks to be out of the equation regarding Pumas selection for this season due to injuries and lack of game time, and is now looking for a new club, which may be hard to find until he proves his fitness.

Belgian born Argentine lock Esteban Lozada was named on the list of departures from Edinburgh recently, and is going to join Agen, another Argentine on their list of departures was 36 year old prop Ulyses Gamboa who was never expected to stay long with them anyway.

Versatile back Matías Viazzo, previously a centre but now a scrum half or fly half, has left Tarbes after one season and re-joined financially troubled Bourgoin after just one season away from them. However Tarbes are bringing in another Argentine, in prop Carlos Muzzio from Fédérale 1 side Vannes.

The Chilean lock Pablo Huete who was signed last season for the Castres Espoirs squad, hasn't got a minute of action this season, and has left for Pau, who are currently third in Pro D2, and Huete should get more game time there. Another Chilean Francisco de la Fuente has left Auch after being sparsely used this season, just playing 98 minutes. The lack of game time for these two players must be considered a disappointment for Chilean rugby.

The all time most capped USA player, Mike MacDonald has left Leeds after seven years with the club, Leeds announced a mass clearout which also includes Americans scrum half Robbie Shaw after failing to achieve promotion back to the Premiership this season.

Confirmed movements for 2012-13 so far

Argentines
Carlos Muzzio, prop, Vannes (Fédérale 1) to Tarbes (Pro D2)
Ulyses Gamboa, prop, Edinburgh (Rabo Pro12) released
Guillermo Roan, prop, Wasps (Aviva Premiership) released (looking for a team in Pro D2)
Rodrigo Roncero, prop, Stade Français (Top 14), retired (unconfirmed whether he will play in the inaugural Rugby Championship)
Esteban Lozada, lock, Edinburgh (Rabo Pro12) to Agen (Top 14)
Leandro Cédaro, lock, Mont-de-Marsan (Pro D2) to La Rochelle (Pro D2)
Manuel Carizza, lock, Biarritz (Top 14) released (is rumoured to have interest from the Scarlets and also from some Super Rugby sides)
Matías Viazzo, fly half, Tarbes (Pro D2) to Bourgoin (Pro D2)
Benjamín Urdapilleta, centre, Harlequins (Aviva Premiership) to Oyonnax (Pro D2)
Gonzalo Tiesi, centre, Stade Français (Top 14) released
Horacio Agulla, wing, Leicester (Aviva Premiership) released
Agustín Gosio, wing, London Scottish (Championship) released (had an offer from the Cornish Pirates but rejected it)

Americans
Mike MacDonald, prop, Leeds (Championship) released
Hayden Smith, lock, Saracens (Aviva Premiership) to New York Jets (NFL)
Todd Clever, flanker, Suntory Sungoliath (Top League) to NTT Shining Arcs (Top League)
Robbie Shaw, scrum half, Leeds (Championship) released
Kevin Swiryn, wing, Agen (Top 14) retired

Canadians
Chauncey O'Toole, flanker, Ospreys (Rabo Pro12) released
Connor McCann, fly half, Ontario Blues (Canadian Rugby Championship) to Clermont Espoirs (Top 14)

Chileans
Pablo Huete, lock, Castres Espoirs (Top 14) to Pau (Pro D2)
Francisco de la Fuente, centre, Auch (Pro D2) released

An update on the situation of Horacio Agulla

Despite having a fantastic season
with Leicester, Horacio Agulla has
been given zero chance by coach
Richard Cockerill of a negotiation
for a new deal for next season
Meanwhile despite some immense form from Horacio Agulla, who has won over many critics, and fans (there is a Facebook campaign for him to stay at Leicester) won player of the season at Leicester, and has been admired as one the best wingers of the season in the Premiership, a position that Argentina now have the luxury of having a back three of Imhoff, Agulla and Amorosino containing three players who are amongst the best in their leagues, never before has Argentina had such depth in their wingers.

The continued form of Agulla made people think it was possible he could negotiate a new deal with Leicester who have said they no longer want him, due to unavailability whilst with Argentina.

however that was just speculation and the Leicester coach Richard Cockerill (the idiot who totally ignored Amorosino for two years) ended it confirming there would be no new deal and hit out at the Argentine governing body (the UAR), saying  "The Argentine Rugby Union have not helped their players and have just thought that the (northern hemisphere) clubs would subsidise their players from June to December, they are going to have difficulties because, I imagine, only the top French clubs could afford to do that."

However I can't imagine Agulla on current form will have many difficulties finding a new club.